"Covid-19 vaccine candidate is 90% effective...brings into view a potential end to the pandemic"

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"Covid-19 vaccine candidate is 90% effective, says manufacturer


Interim analysis of vaccine by Pfizer/BioNTech far exceeds expectations of most experts




A vaccine against Covid-19 is in sight, with the announcement of the first interim results in large-scale trials showing the Pfizer/BioNTech candidate is 90% effective, according to the manufacturers, whose analysis shows a much better performance than most experts had hoped for.


The high percentage of those protected makes the findings compelling. Regulators have said they would approve a vaccine that is just 50% effective – protecting half those who get it. The company says there have been no serious side-effects.


“Today is a great day for science and humanity. The first set of results from our phase 3 Covid-19 vaccine trial provides the initial evidence of our vaccine’s ability to prevent Covid-19,” said Dr Albert Bourla, the Pfizer chairman and CEO.


“We are reaching this critical milestone in our vaccine development program at a time when the world needs it most with infection rates setting new records, hospitals nearing over-capacity and economies struggling to reopen.”


The trial will continue until there have been 164 confirmed cases so there is potential for the efficacy rate to change, but a finding that 90% of infections were prevented will excite politicians and public health leaders and brings into view a potential end to the pandemic.


The phase 3 trials have involved more than 43,000 people. People from black and minority ethnic backgrounds appear to have been as well protected as everyone else, the company says.


Gathering the required safety data will take until the third week of November, says the company. The dossier will then be submitted to the regulators for approval. Speedy licensing could mean the first doses being given to healthcare workers by the end of the year.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/09/covid-19-vaccine-candidate-effective-pfizer-biontech
 

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Gee, that didn't take long. This will be the new narrative going forward, rational thinking and more optimism

Doom and despair are so last week
 

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Gee, that didn't take long. This will be the new narrative going forward, rational thinking and more optimism

Doom and despair are so last week

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There's been plenty to be optimistic about, including dozens of posts i've made this year.

OTOH there are those with - nothing - but doom & gloom about the economy.
 

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A week after the election just as predicted...

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Liberals you were played like fools...

African Americans most of you were played like fools...

America you were played like fools...

Xfiles...buddy hate to say it but you were played like a fool as well...

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A week after the election just as predicted...

face)(*^%

Liberals you were played like fools...

African Americans most of you were played like fools...

America you were played like fools...

Xfiles...buddy hate to say it but you were played like a fool as well...

LoL


Conspiracy nut job theorist?
 
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1 week after the election and we have a Covid 19 vaccine. Well would you look at that.

I'm sure this data wasn't available last week.

This is so scripted.
 

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There's been plenty to be optimistic about, including dozens of posts i've made this year.

OTOH there are those with - nothing - but doom & gloom about the economy.
So much irony....

The guy with his head in the sand accuses someone else of having their head in the sand.
 

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60 Minutes piece last night on the great Operation Warp Speed. Nothing, but good news on the way as the media does a 180 on every issue. Problem is only about 5% of the lemmings will understand how they got played and now we all have to live with upcoming drive to socialism.
 
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It's 99.8% without out a vaccine

Apples & oranges. A vaccine makes the world safer than without a vaccine. Fewer people suffer, fewer have long term ill health & fewer die.

Covid has 99.98 recovery rate.





The majority of those who have died after contracting the novel coronavirus are people over the age of 80, with 2,080 deaths recorded in total since the beginning March.



The fact is that the survival rate of corona is 99.97% for anyone under 50. For a 74 year old man like Trump the survival rate is 96%





So Trump was playing Russian Roulette with his life in acting irresponsibly.


And under 50 people acting foolishly, selfishly & irresponsibly are putting the 50+ & "high risk" people's lives & health in peril.


COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):


Ages 0-19: 99.997%


Ages 20-49: 99.98%


Ages 50-69: 99.5%


Ages 70+: 94.6%



So if you're 70+ there is a very real chance of dying from a C-19 infection. Greater than 5% or 5 in 100.


Also if you're 50-69 there is a very real chance of dying from a C-19 infection. Exactly 5 in 1000.


Anyone wanna play some "Russian Roulette". That's a fool's game.


Wake up.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...ian%20roulette
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ssian-roulette
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...ssian-roulette


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Shutdowns were the most effective precaution there was from a cautious health expert perspective. That's why the experts advocated lockdowns. They worked to save millions of lives from death, as well as millions of others from illness, hospitalization, ICU & long term negative health effects. Which would have impacted economies negatively. And led to hospitals being overwhelmed & having to choose between who lives & who dies because they wouldn't have been able to treat many emergency patients on arrival & have been forced to turn many away from timely needed emergency care. Leading to many more deaths.


So you're saying you advocated a Swedish approach "all along" from the beginning of the pandemic? Are you not aware that Sweden has suffered way more infections and deaths relative to their Nordic neighbours with no advantage economically? The Sweden approach has been a failure!


Are you not aware that even apparently healthy young people are dying & suffering long term negative consequences from C-19, in addition to suffering in ICU's from the illness. Which you ignored from my previous post.


"I was infected with coronavirus in March, six months on I’m still unwell


Charlie Russell, 27, is one of an estimated 600,000 people with post-Covid illness, a condition that may give an insight into ME"


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-still-unwell


More on the long term negative effects of C-19 infection here:


https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/c-19...vivors.723087/


As for the shutdowns, what is obviously clear is they have had many benefits:


1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.


http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637


Many kids & young people's lives have already been saved due to the worldwide lockdowns.


Because motor vehicle accident deaths are the #1 leading worldwide cause of death in such.


"Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens."


https://www.google.com/search?q=lead...hrome&ie=UTF-8


"Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world.4


"...Road traffic injuries are estimated to be the eighth leading cause of death globally for all age groups and the leading cause of death for children and young people 5–29 years of age. More people now die in road traffic crashes than from HIV/AIDS.4"


https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/...nd%20cyclists.


As for "trillions in damage", there would have been huge economic damage with or without the shutdowns. Without shutdowns millions more people get ill, hospitalized, suffer long term ill health & death leading to employees being absent from work, businesses shutdown anyway, & in many cases for much longer, etc.
 
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clueless paranoia fuels the fear mongering by some on this site.

[FONT=&quot]Wise cautionary foresight as opposed to foolish irresponsibility, covidiocy & conspiracy nut jobism . Like advocating wearing a motorcycle or bicycle helmet.

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Fear mongering re the future of the economy.
 

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Not gonna say it's not a real thing. So is pneumonia. Ur body fights or it doesn't. To me it's way overrated and politicized.
 

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Wise cautionary foresight as opposed to foolish irresponsibility, covidiocy & conspiracy nut jobism . Like advocating wearing a motorcycle or bicycle helmet.

Fear mongering re the future of the economy.

Nah, the foresight was wrong. You guys bit the dust on that one. Sorry you were so wrong.

Now if leaders knew how to shelter their elderly and sick, that would have been foresight worth heeding.

The rest of us Covid is the flu, but in most cases much less. Just ask all the positive cases with no symptoms.
 

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